Tire and Transmission Acceleration Comparison

Started by BigMike, January 31, 2010, 12:38:59 PM

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BigMike

Here are the results from a quick acceleration comparison. The engine used is 130 HP @ 7000 RPM and 107 TQ @ 4800 RPM, redline of 8,000rpm. Weight is 1900 pounds with 55% on the front wheels. All four cars had the same identical data except for transmission (5 or 6 speed) and tires.

C52 is the standard 5-speed transmission & C60 is the 6-speed transmission we can use from a Pontiac Vibe.
The two tire sizes I compared are 13" rim Vs. 14" rim, both having the same 205mm width and 50-series profile.

                     PERFORMANCE COMPARISON ANALYSIS                       
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Selected Cars: 1. TOYOTA FX16 4A-GE C52 13-205-50                         
                2. TOYOTA FX16 4A-GE C60 13-205-50                         
                3. TOYOTA FX16 4A-GE C52 14-205-50                         
                4. TOYOTA FX16 4A-GE C60 14-205-50                         

Car Number         1         2         3         4                       
                --------- --------- --------- ---------                   
Time to Speed                                                             
0-30  mph....        2.1       2.1       2.2       2.1                   
0-40  mph....        3.7       3.7       3.8       3.7                   
0-50  mph....        4.9       4.8       5.0       4.8                   
0-60  mph....        6.3       6.9       6.4       6.9                   
0-70  mph....        8.7       8.5       8.9       8.6                   
0-80  mph....       10.8      11.3      11.0      11.4                   
0-90  mph....       14.3      13.9      13.6      13.9                   
0-100 mph....       17.7      18.1      18.0      18.3                   
                                                                           
Time to Distance                                                         
0-100 ft.....        3.1       3.1       3.2       3.1                   
0-500 ft.....        8.2       8.3       8.3       8.3                   
0-1320ft.....       15.1      15.2      15.1      15.1                   
  @  mph  ....       92.4      91.5      92.0      93.8                   
                                                                           
Top Speed....        133       134       134       134                   
                                                                           
5-60 mph, 1st                                                             
Gear Start...        5.9       6.6       6.0       6.6                   
                                                                           
30-50 mph                                                                 
2nd Gear.....        2.2       2.1       2.3       2.1                   
3rd Gear.....        3.4       2.8       3.6       2.9                   
4th Gear.....        5.0       3.7       5.4       3.9                   
5th Gear.....        6.4       5.1       6.9       5.4                   
6th Gear.....                  7.3                 7.9                   
                                                                           
50-70 mph                                                                 
2nd Gear.....                                                             
3rd Gear.....        3.5       3.1       3.6       3.2                   
4th Gear.....        5.0       3.7       5.4       3.9                   
5th Gear.....        6.4       5.0       6.8       5.4                   
6th Gear.....                  7.2                 7.8
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BigMike

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I really like the 13" tire using the 6-speed transmission. It is the best in all gears from 30-50 mph and also from 50-70 mph.

The 14" tire with the 6-speed is a close 2nd. What do you guys think?
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I think a 195 55 14 would do fine. The car is light, don't really need that much footprint. The biggest problem I come across with my tires is rolling to the sidewall in a turn. The stock 185 60 14 allowed too much understeer. The steering response was 'drunk' feeling. Steering input felt delayed. I ran 195 55 15 and the tires were really too much for the stock suspension. A 50 series tire on 14 will probably be the same. We'll have to see where we are with the suspension before we decide on a tire/wheel size and aspect ratio. A better balance in the tire/wheel/suspension is better than just slapping on some big meat.
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Sirdeuce

Also need to see what junkyard wheels will fit.
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